After I first wrote about boomer shooters final yr on Steam Deck and in addition on Swap, other than New Blood and Nightdive, the most typical identify was Andrew Hulshult who has achieved some superb music over time. He lately was concerned with the DOOM + DOOM II re-release that included his IDKFA soundtrack with new music for DOOM II, and having needed to interview him for some time now, I lastly had an opportunity to speak with him on name for a number of hours to debate sport soundtracks, composition, bands he likes, guitar strings, pickups, chilly brew espresso, his first movie soundtrack, video games he’s enjoying, and much more. This interview was achieved on video name after which it was transcribed and edited for brevity. Similar to my interview with Dave Oshry from New Blood, this one was extra informal than typical, and that is probably the longest interview on TouchArcade so strap in and seize a chilly brew.
TouchArcade (TA): So for these unaware, inform us just a little bit about your self and what you do.
Andrew Hulshult (AH): Yeah, my identify’s Andrew Hulshult. I’m a composer and sound designer for primarily video video games, however I’m beginning to transfer over into movie as properly. I like to only write music on my own typically when it’s not for a sport or movie. However that’s primarily what I do. I work within the sport and movie business doing sound design, soundtracks, and typically voice appearing.
TA: How did you find yourself engaged on the canceled Duke Nukem challenge and in addition Rise of the Triad 2013?
AH: Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded was truly simply form of like, I believe that was 2010. That’s, I’m reaching again right here just a little bit. So I believe Frederik on the time, Frederik Schreiber, the man who runs 3D Realms now, or I believe he nonetheless does, principally he was remaking maps in the midst of Unreal Engine 3 of like a number of the unique Duke 3D maps and posting them on Gearbox boards, which I believe one among them that received a whole lot of hits was like all the 3D renders of like Hollywood Holocaust, which is like E1M1 for Duke 3D. That caught my consideration as properly. I used to be like, wow, that appears actually neat. , like I reached out on the boards, I used to be like, hey, do you want any music? Possibly this is able to be enjoyable. Like, I actually favored Duke 3D again within the day. And he mentioned, yeah, positive. , like if you wish to remake a number of the stuff and hand it off to me.
So I simply did a few of that. I simply had gear laying round and I needed to form of discover ways to do that anyway. So I simply dove in head first and began form of remaking a number of the outdated Duke 3D tracks. That form of spawned into, you realize, not so much, not so much was achieved in Duke 3D Reloaded. It was identical to, you realize, like some odds and ends stuff. Someway that changed into Apogee, Terry Nagy, head looking us and saying, hey, I’ve an IP that I’d actually such as you to work on known as Rise of the Triad when you guys need to give it a attempt. And he had an investor with him on the time who was named Dave Oshry And this was a really very long time in the past. And it’s loopy. Like all these folks now are like, you realize, on the, we had been all on the forefront of just like the retro FPS revival stuff.
However principally after Duke 3D Reloaded, yeah, Apogee got here, mentioned, hey, we’re . And Fred mentioned sure on our facet. And we began making Rise of the Triad 2013.
TA: It was humorous you talked about Dave Oshry as a result of once I lastly received an interview with him, I believe it was simpler for me to satisfy Iron Maiden than get that interview, however after getting that achieved, I had New Blood coated. I lately additionally interviewed Nightdive about The Factor, however I wanted to finish the trifecta for boomer shooters: Andrew Hulshult. Now that’s lastly occurring.
We each giggle.
TA: I keep in mind in a previous interview you probably did, you talked about how if you had been doing the 3D realm stuff, you weren’t conscious of how a lot you had been in demand within the business. So when that door closed, instantly you had like a, like hundreds of alternatives and stuff like that. However, and clearly you’ve gone on to do a few of like some enormous titles since then. Clearly Doom Everlasting DLC is the one which lots of people take into consideration you. For me, it’s like different titles like Nightmare Reaper and Nightfall and stuff like that. I need to understand how you’ve modified as a musician and as knowledgeable from again then to now.
AH: Oh, that’s a terrific query. Man, beginning off within the business with, you realize, doing the entire stuff with Interceptor, like the place we had been, what we had been simply speaking about, it was a very recent expertise as a musician. So that you don’t know what you’re stepping into. After which a whole lot of instances you’re like, I don’t even know what I ought to be getting paid, you realize, like you will have an thought, however you’re not, you don’t know. And so like wading by these waters is attention-grabbing and in addition harmful territory. However the stuff that I’ve realized has been all from, you realize, tripping on agreements as you go ahead. You signal an settlement, you go for it, you make the cash, and on the again finish you’re both like, this didn’t actually work out, otherwise you’re like, hey, this labored out, we have to ensure that we do that once more, you realize.
It’s studying your entire time. As a result of that is the factor that I really feel like musicians get hung up on so much, which is, you realize, they only, they need to make actually, actually superior, lovely artwork for video games. And like, there’s completely nothing flawed with that. It is best to, that ought to be the core precept that you just do. However you need to just remember to receives a commission so to proceed to do it. As a result of in any other case you burn your self out and also you don’t need to work within the business anymore. And that, to return to what you had been speaking about with, I didn’t understand how a lot, like how in demand I used to be. I used to be proper at that time. I used to be about to stroll away from all the things proper after the entire stuff with 3D Realms. I used to be achieved with video games. I used to be like, you realize what, like there’s not a whole lot of avenues right here and I’m simply getting extra bitter as time goes on. And the final handful of issues I’ve labored on have simply bombed so why am I placing all this effort into this?
I ought to attempt to do one thing else. And I didn’t notice till I stepped out from 3D Realms how many individuals needed to rent me. And like, it’s a type of bizarre issues the place like, I’m positive you may in all probability relate. When you will have a job, like a day job, when you’ve ever simply held like a easy, easy day job, you may get sucked into that complete cycle of that job and nothing else issues round.
So an instance of this is able to be, I labored for a music retailer for about 15 years, okay. I used to be doing properly for them. They needed to provide me my very own shops. I used to be engaged on administration. And the cycle that comes with that the place you get so wrapped up within the enterprise of that makes you lose focus of a number of different issues in life. And that’s form of what occurred to me whereas I used to be working with 3D Realms. That’s nothing dangerous about them. It’s simply if you’re working for a corporation somewhat than working for your self, it turns into that.
From the begin to now has been like only a loopy studying course of. You do must stroll on landmines. You do must get blown up a few instances till you determine what works and what doesn’t. Stepping out from 3D Realms after they mentioned, hey, we don’t have the money to pay you. It’s like, oh, okay, I suppose I’ll go determine this out now. After which impulsively, DUSK, you realize, like that’s actually the subsequent factor that and AMID EVIL had been the very subsequent issues that I labored on. It was loopy.
TA: Clearly you get a whole lot of questions on sport music, however what’s like, because you introduced up this entire factor about the way you’ve modified, what’s the greatest false impression that individuals each within the business and just like the gamers have about video video games music proper now?
AH: The largest false impression. Oh, that anyone can do it and it’s a small half. laughs It’s like, you may’t simply throw something in there. Like, man, it’s I’d say that from a public like standpoint of I don’t play video games that a lot and I’m informal form of factor, a few of my buddies and a few of my household are like, you will have the best job. I’m like, you haven’t any f***ing thought. , stroll in my sneakers for a day and let’s discuss once more. Yeah, it’s actually tough since you, you actually must trick your self into stepping into no matter ambiance or no matter world another person has painted already. Proper. Like they’ve already constructed all the things out. That is their imaginative and prescient. It’s important to step into it and you need to step into it with respect to their design philosophies. And also you additionally must have the boldness to say, properly, that is what I believe we should always do and why we should always do it. And there’s a whole lot of, there’s a whole lot of social confidence that’s wanted to do a gig like this.
It’s advanced in a whole lot of other ways. The artwork facet of it’s onerous sufficient, like pulling shit out of skinny air, is tough already, however then, um, explaining to folks why you need to go this path and typically even arguing to get that path is usually a problem in and of itself.
So yeah, I’d say the most important false impression is that it’s straightforward and that it’s not straightforward. I swear to God, so many instances my buddies are like, ah, you’ve received the best job. I’m like, no, man, I reside, I, I threw 100 pound containers from 6 AM to 4 PM. And typically I miss that.
Whiskey and low fueled half of the @RiseoftheTriad OST. Most songs had been composed between 9pm and 3am.
The extra you realize
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) September 30, 2015
TA: So I additionally need to discuss so much about your gear, however earlier than that, I believe we should always focus on a number of the sport particular issues. So let’s begin with ROTT 2013. I’ve simply despatched you a tweet proper now, which I needed to reference. That is fairly an outdated one (linked above). Nicely, I truly didn’t know a lot about this soundtrack till lately. I had heard about it and I had heard that a whole lot of my buddies purchased that launch. They mentioned that it wasn’t that nice. I performed the unique on DOS however not the 2013 model, so I didn’t actually hear all of it in-game till the Ludicrous Version and when people made an enormous deal about it having Andrew Hulshult’s music. I made a decision I needed to correctly attempt it then. I needed to speak about your thought course of between like, you realize, redoing these tracks and developing with your individual flare on them, as a result of anybody who, a minimum of any fan of yours, in the event that they take heed to that, they comprehend it’s your music. It’s not like, oh, this is rather like him doing a canopy of another person. It nonetheless feels prefer it’s you.
AH: The before everything factor was to be sure you respect your elders. I needed to ensure that no matter I did clearly served the fanbase and by proxy served all the things that Lee Jackson had written. Lee Jackson and Bobby Prince, so far as I’m involved, that’s the de facto composers for FPS. The originators. You’re already moving into one thing properly established again within the day. Persons are very conversant in this. Should you f*** it up, you’re toast. That was my first skilled gig. Getting into that form of strain.
Simply actually what it got here to, it was all actually pure. I heard these songs and I noticed the sport and what they’re making and I’m like it’s kinda jank, however it’s enjoyable. It’s ridiculous. ROTT is so ridiculous. I used to be like man, I used to be speaking to Dave and Fred about it. What if we did like rock and metallic stuff predominantly? That’s the form of music I take heed to on a regular basis. They mentioned let’s attempt it. Even Terry was like it’s best to do it.
Actually they only kinda gave me free reign to provide it a attempt on a few of these issues. The primary one I did as a demo to work on it was “Goin Down the Quick Means” and I keep in mind I handed that to Terry. Terry is superior and he has been nice to me for my complete profession. By no means had a nasty piece of recommendation from him. He’s the CCO for Apogee by the way in which. I keep in mind handing him the very first demo of “Goin Down the Quick Means”. His remark coming again to me was “It’s in the proper path nevertheless it appears like a diarrhea of sound” As a result of it wasn’t blended accurately. I used to be simply excited handy him one thing. I used to be like okay that is a type of moments the place I’m going to must discover ways to settle for suggestions even when it isn’t from a musician and I do know that they imply properly. I remixed a few issues and I believe that is what he was speaking about and I despatched it again to him and he mentioned it was means higher and it was superior. Okay cool, this man doesn’t simply hate me.
It form of simply got here from the center. All of the soundtracks I work on, it’s me. Even whether it is moving into another person’s sneakers, I’ve to keep in mind that the supply materials comes first, you then put your influences on. So the supply materials is the construction of the home however you may put up no matter partitions you need and paint on it, and hold and adorn, however simply ensure that the home remains to be the identical home that individuals keep in mind.
Now to deal with the Tweet above, Whiskey and low fueled half of the Rise of the Triad soundtrack. Most songs had been composed between 9 p.m. and three a.m. That’s true. Right here’s one little tidbit with it too. Terry Nagy, the man I used to be speaking about, the CCO from Apogee, he would often take me right down to a bar known as Hula Palms. And he would purchase the drinks after which he would simply take me house and be like, “Alright, now go write some extra songs.” It was superior. I miss these days.
TA: This jogs my memory of that one observe in IDKFA the place you used a tremolo to duplicate a selected sound and it was the right solution to do it.
AH: That was Darkish Halls in DOOM. It has the tremolo guitar that’s alleged to be the rolling bass synth from that sound. I really like that tune.
TA: After ROTT 2013, one other sport I didn’t actually play till lately was Bombshell and I actually solely purchased that sport due to your soundtrack. I received it once I was researching boomer shooters for an article and was trying on the video games I don’t personal. I purchased it and didn’t actually look after a lot of it, however the music was nice. I form of consider that soundtrack with Nightmare Reaper the place they really feel like simply metallic albums from Andrew Hulshult somewhat than devoted sport soundtracks. Was this the purpose in your profession the place you realized you’re actually good at bringing metallic into these sorts of video games? It felt like a turning level.
AH: That’s that’s a terrific query too like truly yeah like proper round that point I used to be experimenting so much with simply you realize making massive atmospheric like synth stuff and like orchestral as you may hear on that soundtrack when you received far sufficient, laughs, but additionally like for the for the larger fights and stuff, I actually needed to start out dialing up you realize my very own sound and my very own writing and you realize I’d already achieved the quilt stuff I needed to need to present folks what what I may do and so yeah that’s form of actually the place my introduction to love my very own unique items began coming into place, so yeah that’s truly proper. I by no means even thought of that that’s the place that began and in addition like I imply I gosh that’s if I give it some thought, that was 2013 is the tip of 2013 is when improvement began on that, and it initially began as a Duke Nukem sport earlier than the lawsuit, and I had an eight string by that point. I used to be tuning down massive time at that time, and there’s a whole lot of stuff that by no means made it perhaps I’ll put that up on Twitter in some unspecified time in the future however there’s a whole lot of stuff that by no means by no means confirmed up on it as a result of it was just a little too aggressive you realize however that stuff would later present up in DOOM you realize. laughs
TA: When simply discovering your music a few years in the past, all the things was actually good metallic, and this was in all probability across the time I used to be primarily listening to metallic earlier than I began broadening my horizons. I went by this section once I was studying guitar and I began listening to extra Dream Theater after which received a seven string guitar, and ultimately received into Meshuggah. It received me serious about how once I take heed to your music now, you handle doing distinctive issues for every sport and make the songs match the sport correctly. It isn’t simply metallic anymore so there’s no fear about being typecast. Did you will have that worry that everybody is simply going to count on metallic from you if you’re behind a selected soundtrack?
AH: Oh man. You simply saying that simply out loud makes me wow. I nonetheless fear about that typically. There are moments the place I’m like am I getting typecast at this level, and also you saying, yeah I don’t have to fret about that anymore, I’m like oh thank god I heard it from another person the place they had been you realize like, as a result of I don’t need to be like I don’t need to be like straight up generally known as metallic man you realize like I really like metallic I really like enjoying it I’ll make these data all day lengthy as folks so long as folks will take heed to it and even when they gained’t I’ll in all probability make them, however yeah I like to color with totally different brushes like particularly once I become old, like I actually take pleasure in mixing sound design with guitars.
I like mixing sound design with orchestral devices, I like simply going full hand on my Eurorack synth stuff over right here and simply getting misplaced. As a musician I’m lucky sufficient at this level the place I can simply experiment, and I do know I can discover, I’ve the boldness now after engaged on all these video games and having some success with it the place I do know if I get misplaced I can discover a means out as a result of I’ll discover one thing that I like, and chances are high if I prefer it, I can in all probability present it to some individuals who will dig it as properly. I’m so glad to listen to that you just’re like I do know that I can get some selection. laughs
TA: I imply if somebody simply heard DUSK and I’d say in the event that they heard DUSK even that’s fairly totally different. I imply if somebody’s not into metallic perhaps they suppose nightfall sounds the identical as bombshell however you may completely inform that DUSK was attempting to be like this center floor of what you want and 9 Inch Nails’ Quake. I believe it has one among my favourite guitar tones in gaming proper now, and it’s nonetheless fairly timeless. I need to transfer to AMID EVIL. I really like the soundtrack to the principle sport, however I need to ask in regards to the DLC for 2 causes. Now the very first thing is form of like a private matter as a result of I imagine you had been going by a household emergency through the time if you had been recording the soundtrack, proper? After I was enjoying Dragon Quest VIII on the 3DS and my grandfather was within the hospital earlier than he handed away, at any time when I take into consideration Dragon Quest VIII now it jogs my memory of that. So do you undergo the identical factor with the AMID EVIL DLC music?
AH: I don’t suppose I’ve been capable of sit down and digest it that means but. However I do know precisely what you’re speaking about and I’m positive that’s what I’ll completely undergo. Yeah, to harp again to what you’re speaking about, to what you’re referencing, my father had a coronary heart assault. And it was simply out of nowhere. And it was on, gosh, I believe it was on New Yr’s Eve. It was like 9 PM on New Yr’s Eve. It was the yr earlier than it was launched And I used to be midway, I used to be like halfway by engaged on that soundtrack. And it simply scared the shit out of me. As anyone would. Your father’s dying And he ended up having like a, all 4 valves round his coronary heart had been like 90-95% clogged. So yeah, he needed to have a quadruple bypass. And fortunately, We have now a extremely, actually good coronary heart hospital proper subsequent to us. They usually’re at an age now the place they’re on Medicare. I believe it’s Medicare. I can’t keep in mind. It’s like when you’re previous 64 at a sure age on this nation, you may get on Medicare. And you realize, like well being stuff isn’t as a lot of a nightmare because it usually is. However they received nice care, received taken care of. Nevertheless it was months.
It took months for all that stuff to occur. And there’s like so many issues that occurred in between that. Like this was proper in the midst of COVID. So like at any time when he received, it was proper in the midst of the massive Omicron spike for the world. In order quickly as he received admitted, he couldn’t get to an precise emergency room. He needed to sit in one other room for like two or three days they usually truly needed to sedate him for a number of days earlier than they might switch him to a different hospital to get checked out. Prefer it was simply loopy. And I used to be out of my thoughts. I used to be loopy at that time. And so as soon as they received to some extent the place they mentioned we’re going to do surgical procedure and he got here out of surgical procedure, I simply wanted one thing to occupy myself. In any other case, I used to be going to self-destruct.
So I began writing so much on the AMID EVIL stuff and began actually discovering that outdated like enjoying with a band and writing songs for you form of vibe stepping into. And a whole lot of that stuff in a AMID EVIL, the stuff that’s like received a whole lot of power behind it, that’s fairly private for me. There’s a whole lot of feelings on that soundtrack. There’s additionally one thing else that I haven’t talked about in public but and I’m not going to speak about it right here that I began engaged on that has a whole lot of that as properly. And that’ll nonetheless be some time earlier than that pops up. However I’d say that that was my fundamental outlet for some time. You’ve one thing to stay up for.
However yeah, like that soundtrack let’s wrap it up. That soundtrack did have a whole lot of pressure and a whole lot of feelings tied to my father virtually passing away and me attempting to wrap my head round that. You’re proper. I hadn’t thought of that.
TA: The opposite factor in regards to the AMID EVIL DLC is that this particular tune I need to contact on: Splitting Time. This tune is attention-grabbing for a number of causes. It jogs my memory of a few of my favourite sport trailers just like the tune used within the Nioh 2 launch trailer, I’m unsure when you’ve seen it. However extra attention-grabbing than that’s I used to be enjoying Road Fighter 6 with a pal of mine and listening to this within the background and he requested me if I used to be listening to Killer Intuition music? I mentioned it was the AMID EVIL DLC and he needed to know who made it. It jogged my memory fairly a little bit of Mick Gordon’s non DOOM music. We spoke about Killer Intuition and my pal mentioned “they need to get Andrew for a brand new Killer Intuition album” and I needed to ask if Killer Intuition influenced that tune?
AH: No I didn’t truly. However there could be little hints of that backwards and forwards as a result of gosh, there are moments once I went again to that Killer Intuition reboot as a result of I assumed Mick did such a terrific job on it. The place I’m like, man, the manufacturing right here is strictly what I’ve been attempting to do for like a handful of years, And like that soundtrack was simply actually inspiring to take heed to. I believe he’s simply, he’s an excellent composer.
TA: That’s one other sport I purchased due to the soundtrack as a result of once I performed DOOM 2016, I used to be like I must play extra video games with this man’s achieved the music for and everybody was like Killer Intuition. I used to be like I’ve by no means heard this. I didn’t personal an N64. What the hell is that this sport? I purchased it and favored the music much more than the sport.
AH: That entire soundtrack slaps, man. He did a incredible job on that.
Whenever you notice @AndrewHulshult put his entire bussy into the Nightmare Reaper OST as a substitute of saving it for DUSK 2 pic.twitter.com/tU1AsySok0
— Dave @ Dwelling (@DaveOshry) October 11, 2023
TA: OK, so now let’s go to Nightmare Reaper a bit. I already talked about how this may very well be your individual metallic album. I don’t even suppose it must be associated to this sport. And that is one other sport I simply purchased as a result of the music was so good. And I used to be like there’s form of like this disconnect between what I anticipated within the sport and after I heard the music, as a result of I heard the music earlier than enjoying the sport and I used to be like, OK, I must get used to this. However so earlier than I ask you about your thought course of between doing the music, I need to simply carry up this different tweet (linked above) from New Blood’s Dave Oshry, which is attention-grabbing for Nightmare Reaper. After I noticed that Tweet, I knew I needed to carry it up at any time when I interviewed you sooner or later and right here we’re.
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AH: Every time Bruno reached out to me, Bruno is the developer of Nightmare Reaper. Every time he reached out to me, we simply actually began speaking about a few of our favourite bands and we’d simply go off backwards and forwards as a result of he confirmed me a sport that he was making. I used to be like, “That appears cool.” I used to be like, “Nicely, let me know when you’re ever .” After which we simply began speaking about music. He’s like, “Would you be focused on working with me on this?” And I mentioned, “Yeah, I believe that may be cool.” And he actually was like, “I simply need this to be like a metallic file from you.” I used to be like, “Actually?” He was like, “Yeah.” He’s like, “You’ve received good influences.” He’s like, “I simply need it to sound such as you simply made a straight metallic file.” I used to be like, “Nicely, it might probably’t be simply that.” I used to be like, “Nevertheless it’ll be largely that.” You continue to want to love, we have to, it must nonetheless be for a sport. As a result of in any other case you’d have me, you realize, screaming over high of all the things as properly.
However yeah, it’s fairly near one thing I’d have written at the moment. , as you go together with a, as time strikes on, tastes change. And you realize, however like at the moment, for positive, that’s what you’d have gotten for a metallic file. I believe that’s fairly shut, yeah.
TA: How do you handle doing that and in addition holding the soundtrack dynamic for a sport then?
AH: Um, play by it a whole lot of instances the place you may determine the place you may have rests and lulls. And the place any person’s gonna probably simply stroll round and search for issues. After which attempt to write one thing that you just your self wouldn’t get tired of. And that’s nonetheless attention-grabbing by way of like, you realize, like an ambient observe or like a low power observe that also strikes just a little bit. Simply music to discover to, proper? After which attempt to make a chunk that enhances what that’s, however is tremendous excessive power or, uh, simply greater power for it. So like, in order that these two can work collectively. You actually have to think about it as like, you’re gluing two or three totally different items collectively. As a result of like Prodeus has like three items.
It has an ambient, it has a light-weight fight, and it has a heavy fight. They usually’re structured in triggers all through that sport. So I’ve to think about how this ambient works with this low fight tune after which work with this excessive fight tune. Or this heavy fight tune. And do all of them transfer properly between one another, um, when you had been to only crossfade them at random instances, you realize? As a result of that’s what the engine goes to do. So yeah, it’s like, I don’t know, you simply, you gotta take a type of items of music, construct it out first, after which take into consideration the opposite piece.
TA: Because you introduced up Prodeus, that was the subsequent sport I used to be going to ask about. I don’t even keep in mind what occurred with Prodeus when it launched on Steam, as a result of I keep in mind being despatched a code for it and simply tried it out for assessment, however was blown away by the music. I keep in mind I even joked about that once I wrote about boomer shooters. On the time, it felt like all the things boomer shooters was all about New Blood, Nightdive, and Andrew Hulshult. So Prodeus looks like metallic, industrial, bass heavy, and punchier basically. It really works properly with the aesthetic however I believe Cables and Chaos is my favourite. You’ve spoken so much about Prodeus, however I needed to know what your favourite observe is from that and whether or not you can provide us an attention-grabbing anecdote from composing which individuals won’t find out about?
AH: Cables and Chaos is certainly my favourite one. Like, for positive. Like, that was the second. Um, so, like, they initially solely needed me to work on, like, the music that first shipped. Not lots of people know that I went by, like, this entire nightmare the place I needed to pull your entire soundtrack down throughout your entire, like, all this digital distribution and put it again up with all of the songs as a result of initially there was solely, like, ten items of music with Prodeus. After which once they had been getting nearer to launch they had been like, “Hey, we need to… we need to… we would like, like, ten extra.” And I used to be like, “Oh, uh, okay. Nicely, I’ve already put out the soundtrack.We already agreed on this, so that is bizarre.” So, um, they confirmed me what else they had been engaged on by way of, like, the degrees and all the things that I hadn’t seen and I used to be like, “Good lord, these look unimaginable!” So I received actually impressed with that and made a ton of actually simply extra aggressive items of music which changed into issues like Chaoscaster, Cables and Chaos, uh…I’m simply attempting to think about the opposite ones. Dystopian Dimension.
That entire soundtrack is superior. Like, that entire soundtrack, like, it was inbuilt an attention-grabbing time the place it’s…it was… half of it was pre-pandemic and the opposite half was throughout isolation throughout pandemic. So, it’s received these actually attention-grabbing tangents of, uh, the second half of the file’s far more aggressive than the primary half. Simply because, like, I don’t know, I used to be at house and I’m like, I can’t get something out. Like, by way of my outlet, I can’t exit. I can’t do that. So, like, all of my power was centered on how aggressive can I make the remainder of this, you realize? Like, after which we lastly get to place it out. I believe that was 2022.
Right here’s one factor from Prodeus that I assumed was tremendous neat. So, Spent Gasoline is among the solely instances that I’ve been…Nicely, it was one of many first instances I’d achieved it in the intervening time. The place I’d taken an thought and I used to be like, how do I write an idea round this? And actually, like, the map they confirmed me was simply, you realize, inexperienced sludge and radiated bullshit in all places. It seemed like Chernobyl. And, um…I used to be like, man, I actually need to discover methods to take issues like Geiger counters, uh, and, uh, pulses from, from, uh, from fission reactions and, like, perhaps even the sound of the, uh, the flash that occurs within the video at any time when they’re testing the atomic bomb stuff. Like, something that’s gamma or uh, radiation that’s audible, I need to take that and make a chunk of music with it. So, there actually are all of these issues in that piece of…that piece of music. So, there may be the sound of a nuclear reactor turning on, doing what’s known as a pulse, uh, for the primary time. And that’s truly utilized in a part of the beat. The Geiger counters used as parts of the beat that form of appears like a drum machine just a little bit.
I reversed the sound of, uh, the atomic bomb, the preliminary flash hitting the digital camera, making this “bzzz” sound. I reversed that and made it pulse backwards and forwards by the beat. After which, you realize, afterward the music is like a whole lot of guitar stuff to go together with it and all the things, however all that stuff that’s occurring with the synthesizer is all primarily based round, you realize, like radiation. And I used to be like, “Ah, that is cool!”
Every time I received achieved with it, I used to be like, “Lastly!” I had an thought, like an idea thought for a chunk of music that stems from like an actual life factor and put all of it collectively. In order that was like, that’s one of many standout moments for me on that soundtrack. I used to be actually happy with that.
TA: Are you able to say something in regards to the DLC music or is that simply as much as the devs for them to launch?
AH: Uh, that’s as much as the devs for them.
TA: Something that’s totally different or attention-grabbing or ought to we simply count on one other banger soundtrack?
AH: I’m unsure in the event that they’re going to make use of the bottom sport stuff or if they need me to work on something new. I’ve my suspicions that they’ll give me a shout in all probability someplace within the close to future, however I haven’t heard from them but.
TA: I believe in a latest interview the place you spoke in regards to the Iron Lung soundtrack, which you’re doing, clearly you may’t discuss a lot about it, however I, don’t need to know in regards to the soundtrack particularly, I’ll anticipate the film to come back out, however I need to know three issues: How is it engaged on a film soundtrack? How is it working with Markiplier? How has the funds accessible for the soundtrack modified the way you’re capable of strategy music composition?
AH: So the primary one was, how’s it engaged on a film soundtrack? Utterly totally different. Like, I assumed that, I assumed that I’d be capable of stroll in and simply be like, “Eh, this gained’t, this’ll be easy.” Oh. Like, it’s simply as difficult as the sport stuff, however in a very totally different path. The place I’d know precisely to speak to a developer about “Let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s try this.” I can try this with Mark, however they’re fully totally different conversations. One is, you realize, I do know precisely what’s alleged to be occurring within the sport right here, that is, you realize, you’re selecting up this weapon, otherwise you’re, this journey is going on in entrance of you, that is the tone. The opposite is a movie that I’ll get one thing out of, however Mark could also be intending for a distinct emotion. So now we have to speak about these issues backwards and forwards earlier than I make a chunk of music. So it’s actually attention-grabbing. It’s a enjoyable problem, to be trustworthy with you.
The second was working with Mark? Mark is superior. He’s a lot enjoyable to work with. He hears issues that I don’t hear, uh, brings issues up in, in my very own music, the place I’m like, “Oh, I didn’t even take into consideration that.” And he’s very a lot, um, a musician with out, like, being a musician. Like, he doesn’t, he doesn’t write, like, so far as I do know, he doesn’t write a bunch of music, like, on the common, however he understands it very, very properly. And can, uh, often make selections once I hand him a chunk of music, and he’s like, “Okay, that is, you realize, typically we should minimize these backwards and forwards, however I promise you, like, like, to make it work for a scene.” He’s like, “However I promise you, we’ll do it as finest as we are able to, or I’ll do it as finest as I can.” I’m like, “Uh, you realize, like, perhaps I ought to simply recompose the scene.” And each time he cuts one thing to, like, probably make it, like, a tiny bit shorter, I’m like, “No, that’s precisely what I’d have achieved. Like, how are you this good at enhancing these things?” Like, it’s, it blows my thoughts. Um, so he’s been incredible to work with.
The third is in regards to the funds for the film soundtrack and the way it adjustments the way it impacts composition? Budgets had been so much greater. I’ll simply, I’ll simply preserve it at that. They had been, they had been, they had been a lot greater. Um, simply due to how a lot, it wasn’t, like, because of, um, you realize, like, “Oh, you’re engaged on a movie now.” It was, it was due to how a lot music we went by. Um, I wrote demos with them on the set. So, like, they flew me right down to Austin and Mark mentioned, “Hey, you realize, why don’t you simply write music whereas I’m doing scenes?” I’m like, “Wow, that sounds truly actually, actually f***ing cool, yeah.” So, I’d go down there about as soon as each two weeks and spend about two or three days there, simply sitting at, uh, sitting out entrance whereas they’re, they’re doing scenes, and I’d be writing music with my headphones, simply watching on a monitor, you realize, what’s occurring in entrance of me, like, 50 toes in entrance of me. And so, there was a ton of music from that, and there’s much more music that got here afterwards that we wrote, and in reality, um, I’m truly about to leap on a name as a result of I believe they want yet one more, yet one more piece of music.
I’m gonna bounce on a name in like two hours, ’trigger I believe they want yet one more piece of music. Um, nevertheless it’s, it’s simply been so much. There’s so much there. And it’s selecting the feelings that go the place. So, like, there can be, I wrote all these songs for, you realize, um, catching a vibe of despair, and these songs for catching a vibe of anger, and these vibes for pressure, and this, and this, and now we have this large palette to only select from and decide the place we would like issues to go, and that’s what, that’s what Mark’s been doing. So, yeah, it’s, it’s just about, I imply, financially, the very same factor as, that I’d agree on with video games, nevertheless it’s simply, there’s the quantity that, like, we’ve achieved with stuff is like, whoa, that’s so much! So, yeah.
So, yeah, it’s been nice. It’s helped me out a ton. I’d like to work with Mark once more after this.
TA: Going out of your first film soundtrack, let’s speak about your first chiptune album, which was Nightfall 82. So, was that really the primary time you probably did any type of chiptune remixing or composition or association, I ought to say?
AH: Yeah, the primary actual one, like, I imply, like, you would, you would argue that, like, the Rad Rodgers stuff has a few of that on there, however that’s, like, nearer to synth wave greater than the rest, I really feel like. And, like, that form of retro really feel. So, yeah, this was the primary actual time that I, like, approached, like, a chiptune. Like, that is, you need to keep inside these boundaries of restricted know-how. And it was actually, like, you realize, select your, select your sine wave. Would you like, you need sine, or select your audio wave. Would you like sine, sq., or, you realize, triangle? So, it’s one of many three. Simply constructing, like, drum kits primarily based off of that and, like, white noise and all the things. And, yeah, that was, that was attention-grabbing.
Like, when David approached me about that, I used to be like, “You wanna do what?” , like, fully make, like, the Nightfall soundtrack and chiptunes of, like, why don’t we simply, like, select a handful of, like, the hits and go from there. Like, those that individuals keep in mind probably the most, you realize? And that was enjoyable. Uh, that was tremendous cool. Simply bouncing these backwards and forwards off Dave and David. However, yeah, that was, that was the primary time I ever did that. And it was, it was fairly cool. I’m glad folks prefer it.
TA: I believe, uh, Nightfall 82 was, like, this free pre-order bonus with the Nintendo Swap launch. So once I began enjoying that, I used to be like, “Wait, did they really do that for the soundtrack?” After which I seemed it up and I’m like, “After all they did!” I do know clearly you’re, like, tremendous busy with, like, a ton of tasks, however when you had, like, limitless time and sources, would you do a chiptune demake of any of your different albums? And when you would, which one would you decide?
AH: Gosh. Which one can be probably the most attention-grabbing is basically the, uh, the query there. I believe the one that may be probably the most attention-grabbing if I had been to do this can be in all probability AMID EVIL. As a result of there’s a lot occurring in a few of these, it will be, it will be a whole lot of enjoyable to return and, like, hear a few of these melodies which are, like, on, like, all string sections and stuff, and right here I’m taking all the way in which right down to, like, 8-bit, you realize? I believe that that may match rather well too. However yeah, if cash wasn’t a problem. Yeah, and time. Time’s the most important one there.
TA: Talking of money and time, I used to be going to ask you about remastering one among your outdated soundtracks, like bringing it to the fashionable Andrew Hulshult sound. You talked about that you just’d do ROTT 2013 in the event that they paid you to remaster it.
AH: There’s a ton of labor concerned in that. Doing that only for IDKFA was a ton of labor. Like, that was months of getting that collectively. Um, yeah, I’d love to do this for ROTT if Apogee can be focused on it, however, like, it’s a time factor greater than the rest. I believe it’s a time factor for them, and it’s a time factor for me. I imply, they’re actually down the road, so, like, they will open up that dialog anytime they need, and it’s only a matter of when, you realize? When’s the proper time.
TA: WRATH: Aeon of Damage, I believe is a sport you composed a very long time in the past, a minimum of in gaming, like, a number of years in the past, and it lastly launched this yr. That’s a soundtrack the place if anybody hears it, I believe they in all probability wouldn’t count on it to be you once they take heed to the soundtrack, and that’s one of many issues I really like about it, as a result of right here, like, he does extra than simply metallic, like, you could get that into your head, like, that looks like a type of issues. How was it engaged on that soundtrack?
AH: It was attention-grabbing backwards and forwards. Jeremiah, the developer on that, the unique developer, at first, I believe he’ll be okay with me saying this, at first we didn’t, we didn’t see eye to eye on issues, as a result of I needed straight up, like, virtually no guitar in any respect, Quake, Like, that is what you’re going for, that is the viewers, we have to harp even additional into this, and he needed some guitar blended in there, and like, we’d butt heads backwards and forwards on it fairly a bit, till we lastly got here to love a mutual understanding, and I began listening to him out just a little bit extra, and he began listening to me out, and I used to be like, okay, okay, I believe we’re all good on this.
However yeah, it was, that one was just a little, just a little extra powerful, simply because the, like, the event cycle was, wasn’t, you realize, as folks know, like, didn’t, it didn’t go as nice, like, in the direction of about midway by, perhaps just a little, even just a little sooner than that, and I may see a few of that taking place in actual time, simply because I do know all these guys, so like, it was unavoidable.
In order that’s, that’s onerous to make artwork for when you realize that the product itself is having some issues. However I believe Christalynne Pyle did a superb job with wrapping all the things up in the direction of the tip of it, which was a process in and of itself, for positive. However, I don’t know, there have been some bizarre concepts pitched on the market at one level, the place like, I believe Fred needed like, like straight up, like actually excessive metallic tracks at one level. I believe they even had a trailer at one level the place I used to be like, this isn’t the tone of this sport. I don’t know the place you guys discovered that music, however like, that is, this isn’t that.
However I’m glad that all the things ultimately was capable of have some cohesiveness and, and meld collectively. I actually want that we had time to do some motion tracks, like, for that sport. Like, I really feel like there are moments the place that would have, that would have been useful, but additionally on the identical time, that’s an enormous what if. , like, as a result of there’s two issues that you need to take into accounts. Which is, that’s the Quake engine. It’s just like the OG Quake engine. , what are the restrictions that we’re working with right here? Can we dynamically swap music, and is it going to work properly, simply in addition to you’ve heard in different titles? And quantity two, um, would that take folks out of it?
As a result of everyone remembers just like the OG Quake having like, you realize, each map had its tune. Nicely, I say that. It was a disc operating that simply performed a bunch of music. However principally, each map had a tune for it. So, yeah, there’s, there’s a handful of issues there. However I just like the soundtrack. I believe it’s cool. I believe it’s, it’s, it’s received some actually attention-grabbing moments in it the place like, one among them the place I used to be, I simply mentioned, “F*** it, no matter. We’re gonna, we’re gonna bow a guitar by a bunch of pedals and see what that comes out like.” That’s one among my favourite items from that. I believe that’s in the direction of the tip. However, um, yeah, it was just a little little bit of a battle, however I’m glad I nonetheless went by it. I had enjoyable, and I believe that everyone that labored on it was fairly happy with it by the tip.
TA: Now, DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. How did it really feel for you doing IDKFA and now doing official DOOM music? Like, it’s your soundtrack with David Levy? Did id Software program truly discuss to you about IDKFA beforehand?
AH: I do know that IDKFA was, was handed round that studio an entire bunch, trigger I, I’d get, um, DMs from those who work there that at the moment are, like, I contemplate nice buddies, the place they’d attain out in, like, 2015, and 2016, and, like, all the way in which again as 2014, the place they’d be saying, you realize, hey, I’m working at id proper now, I simply need you to know that I’m listening to your, to your music whereas I work, and I used to be all the time identical to, oh, holy cow, that’s loopy, you realize? Um, and I, you realize, way back to that, I used to be identical to, hey, when you ever, you realize, when you ever, when you ever want music, let me know, you realize? So, however, like, by no means, by no means, you realize, like, pushing like, the button or the boundaries, trigger like, I believe it was introduced that Mick was engaged on there in, like, 2015? Like, it was just like the yr earlier than, or one thing like that, once they actually began exhibiting a number of the music, and I used to be like, oh, they’ve, they’ve, they’ve received that dealt with, okay, cool. So, um, however I used to be all the time focused on, to find a, a solution to work with that studio, trigger I really like DOOM, and, like, it’s actually is, like, the core of my DNA desirous to work in video games, is DOOM, and like, Duke 3D, um, so, yeah,
I all the time needed to work with them, and IDKFA, I kinda checked out virtually as a resume, like, I used to be like, I’m gonna put this on the market, if it will get fashionable sufficient, it’ll communicate for itself, and it did precisely that, as a result of, uh, in, gosh, that was, that was proper at, like, quarter one, quarter two of 2020, when, once they approached me, I believe it was, truly it was, I believe it was quarter two of 2020, and mentioned, hey, we, uh, we’re ready the place we’d like, we’d like music, the place we’d like music, and, uh, we’d like it rapidly, and would you be as much as the duty for this? They totally had been, they knew what they had been asking was, was a tall order, in a brief time frame, they usually mentioned, you realize, we are able to completely use the bottom sport stuff, however we needed to a minimum of attain out and, and ask you, as a result of we, we really feel like we are able to belief you, trigger I, I’d made relationships with, with, uh, with Marty, some gentle ones with Hugo, with Chad Mossholder, their sound man, I knew all of these folks by then, and, um, I used to be like, hey, you realize what, it’s, it’s like 35 or 40 days, f*** it, we, let’s do it, it was like, this appears like a problem, I’m completely up for it, and, you realize, I needed to preserve my composure your entire time, however within the inside I’m like, oh my god, you realize, like, I’m engaged on an official DOOM sport, uh, and when, however after we received achieved with that, like, I don’t know, it’s a type of bizarre moments the place you go, holy cow, we went from, uh, you realize, a mod challenge, uh, all the way in which to the official factor, and it’s simply, it’s insane, it’s, it’s loopy, I preserve operating into these parts of my profession, I hope they by no means cease, there are, one thing all the time surprises me like that.
TA: I believe it’s protected to imagine that lots of people who inform you they love your music carry up Blood Swamps from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. As a result of I believe each individual I see on YouTube is like, everybody’s simply doing Blood Swamps, it looks like the most well-liked factor and all, and for you that’s in all probability a bizarre feeling as a result of you will have this tune which lots of people love or one thing which you’re actually happy with, however you may’t stream it or purchase it legally. Are you able to touch upon that in any type? What do you inform individuals who ask about shopping for your music from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC?
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AH: Nicely, Bethesda and id personal all that stuff, they paid me properly for it, so like I used to be joyful to do all that, um, that’s not like a bullshit PR factor, like, for actual, they took care of me. They personal all that, so you realize, in the event that they, in the event that they ever select to place that stuff out, that may be superior, I’d completely embrace it and get behind it with that, however typically studios try this, typically they don’t, and it’s simply fully as much as their name, however I’ll inform you that they don’t have any drawback with you, you realize, grabbing it off YouTube or something like that, so try this to your coronary heart’s content material, throw it in your telephone, no matter you need to do, they only, they’re simply glad that you just just like the stuff, and so am I, to be trustworthy, however hey, hopefully sooner or later we are able to get an official launch, like, that may be cool.
TA: Yeah, as a result of I’ve the DOOM 2016 vinyl soundtrack, and I’d like to have DOOM Everlasting music on vinyl as properly. Anyway that’s one thing I’ve been serious about as a result of it’s in all probability a tough scenario so that you can be in, as a result of folks would who need to assist you, like, clearly they will purchase DOOM Everlasting and purchase the DLC and stuff like that, nevertheless it’s an unlucky scenario for followers, is all, like, I’ll go away it at that.
AH: It’s not likely like a bizarre scenario in any respect. I’m completely okay with no matter, Bethesda and id need to do with that, as a result of they had been fully up entrance, they’re like, we’re gonna personal this, what we select to do with that’s…Yeah, yeah, and I used to be like, yeah, that’s high quality, I simply need to assist, I need to make like, a cool DLC for everyone that’s caught at house, and I need to write like, some kick-ass music for it. And, so there’s no emotions of like, you realize, oh, that is bizarre as a result of this isn’t out, or something like that.
I do know individuals are gonna rip it out of the sport, I do know, like, so do they, and like, that’s high quality. However, you realize, hopefully, I want to see an official launch sooner or later, however that’s fully as much as them, and I’ll respect no matter they need to do, as a result of they’ve been nothing however superior.
TA: Now let’s simply speak about Blood Swamps for a bit, as a result of like, everybody loves the riffs and stuff like that, so, what was your thought course of in creating that tune? Did they ask you to make one thing that match with the bottom sport or inform you to only go wild and be Andrew with the music?
AH: They instructed me to go wild and simply be me, which I used to be like, that felt fairly harmful to me, as a result of I used to be like, man, the, you realize, what’s established right here from Mick? I’m like, that’s fairly robust. Like, that’d be like any person strolling into one other DUSK soundtrack, you realize, like, for the Indie Shooter, after which being like, we’re gonna do all synthwave, you realize, like, no, that’s not how that works. It’s important to serve what got here earlier than you. It’s important to present respect to what got here earlier than you. And that’s actually vital for the followers earlier than anyone else. Doesn’t matter with an govt producer, doesn’t matter with the musician, doesn’t matter with the artist. It’s for the followers. Like, you need to ensure that no matter you’re going to do goes to, they’re gonna go, okay, cool, yeah, I perceive, you realize, why you selected this. So actually, for me, it once they had been like, hey, you simply be you, do no matter you need, what you suppose serves Doom the most effective. I used to be like, properly, that’s a no brainer. I’m gonna, I’m gonna, you realize, I’m gonna supply some inspiration from 2016 and Everlasting, after which write what I’d need to write.
So, the colours that I’m portray with are acquainted, however the writing that I’m utilizing, what I’m utilizing to color, or the image I’m portray is totally different. So there’s some familiarity there. As a result of, you realize, like, Blood Swamps is sort of a bit totally different than stuff that you’d hear on 2016 or Everlasting. It’s just a little bit extra, that is, uh, that is like virtually like a standard metallic tune. And like, in reality, uh, I keep in mind handing that over to Chad the primary time and him being like, “Oh, metallic. Alright.” And I used to be like, “Actually? That’s like, you’re shocked. However, um, the, uh, it’s just a bit bit extra virtually conventional. However, um, yeah, there’s, like, it was good having David and Chad to bounce stuff off of. As a result of the place I’d hand them one thing, like Blood Swamps was initially like simply guitar, simply, simply bass, and simply drums. And it began, I began including issues in at, uh, after speaking to, um, to Chad and David fairly a bit. The place they’d be like, you realize, “Have you considered any sound design stuff?” I’m like, “Nicely, what did you, you realize, what are you considering? Present me the devices that you just’re working with and, you realize, like, let’s simply discuss stuff out.”
We’d have like hour lengthy conversations each single day. And we’d all simply be taught from one another. It was, it was so cool. However, yeah, like Blood Swamps comes from a degree, I simply keep in mind, I’ve to put in writing one thing that if that is the one DOOM sport I work on, it must be simply, like, means on the market. Like, I’ve to, I’ve to, I’ve to only take my shot. And it has, I’ve to tear out all the obstacles which are like, “Hey, ought to I do that? Shouldn’t I do that? Who provides a f***?” Simply, simply simply write the quickest, most aggressive factor that you can imagine at this time limit, and we’ll go from there. And that’s what, that’s what Blood Swamps was. After which all the things else got here after it, I used to be like, “Okay.” It was like, “We will do various things now.” ?
TA: I believe you talked about the way you had a number of weeks to do the DLC soundtrack, however since you had the assist system of these two, it was all attainable ultimately. I believe you talked about that in one of many different interviews.
AH: Yeah, as a result of David was dealing with, like, on the primary DLC, he was dealing with the cutscene work, and he had his personal, like, stuff the place he was engaged on a boss, and a stage, after which I received these two ranges, in order that they cut up up the work evenly between us on each DLCs. And there’d be so many instances the place I’d name David or Chad and simply be like, “Hey, how are you doing right now?” ? And one among us can be like, “Oh my God, I don’t know the place to go.” ? And we’d simply discuss backwards and forwards, and someway we’d give one another concepts. It was magical. Like, it was loopy. Simply after speaking to David, if I had nothing in my head on what I ought to write, after speaking to David or to Chad, I’d be like, “I do know what I must do now.” It was cool.
TA: Going again to IDKFA a bit, you talked about how a lot work you needed to put into revisit and, like, Remaster the unique soundtrack. What did you consider revisiting these songs? Like, did you are feeling like, you realize, perhaps I ought to have achieved one thing in another way? Or had been you want, “No, I’m proud of this. I simply need to protect it for followers of IDKFA.”
AH: Yeah, it was extra of a, it was just a little tiny little bit of, “I need to do issues just a little in another way.” However, like, I’m speaking to essentially, actually small levels. It was extra about preservation than the rest. And if one thing was being harmful whereas attempting to protect it, these had been the issues that I’d attempt to remove. An instance of that’s there was a whole lot of compression on the unique IDKFA. Simply because I used to be nonetheless in my early 20s at that time, early to mid 20s at that time, mixing in an house that isn’t, like, acoustically sound or something like that. So I’m making combine selections that aren’t the best, however nonetheless maintain up. Like, that album nonetheless sounds nice, however simply a number of the compression facet, like, on the grasp of it, is just a little aggressive.
So once I went again this time round, I truly went by each single a type of songs one after the other and simply gave it just a little bit extra head room, just a little bit extra respiratory room, in order that when you take heed to it sufficient instances, you’re not going to get, like, ear fatigue or one thing like that. That’s actually what I used to be involved about. And that’s all the Doom 1 stuff from the unique IDKFA all received that therapy the place the edge has been raised just a bit bit in order that it sounds just a little bit extra open and pure. And I changed a pair snares right here and there, and perhaps like a kick drum and a bass, however they’re so small I nonetheless haven’t seen anyone discover them.
TA: It is best to revisit Metallica’s St. Anger and do that for all of the followers.
AH: It’s inconceivable to repair that! laughs There’s been bands which have achieved that. I’ve re-recorded that complete file and I see it on YouTube every so often. I’m like that is… this is able to have been a cool file if it will have sounded okay, and perhaps some construction adjustments had been totally different, however yeah, it’s no matter.
TA: I believe when Metallica did Demise Magnetic, that they had the Guitar Hero Metallica stems which individuals used to combine it higher than the precise album. How does this preserve occurring?
AH: James attests to it. These guys are so massive that they legitimately have closing say on all the things that they do. So at any time when they’re touring and you have already got Tinnitus and also you’re mixing in a tent, I keep in mind them speaking about “Yeah, no shit, the guitars are shiny.” I used to be listening to mixes in a tent and making combine selections on the street. I’m like, “Oh, that makes much more sense now.” Like, oh my god. As a result of the Guitar Hero mixes do sound means higher.
TA: This jogs my memory of once I watched Deafheaven and the way superb they sounded reside. You’ve so many bands that launch albums with brickwall mastering ruining the sound of an in any other case good album. It’s a disgrace that some bands don’t get outdoors assist for issues like mastering.
AH: Yeah, it’s…I imply I nonetheless do my very own mastering stuff so I’m the beginning and end with all my stuff however I completely get it at any time when I see a band that has a file that’s simply fully smashed. I’m like, “Yeah.” If I used to be only a musician who actually knew easy methods to play guitar and that’s about it or actually knew easy methods to play drums and that’s about it, I perceive how this occurs. It’s only a bunch of men within the room going, “Louder! This must be louder.” laughs
TA: So that you revisited IDKFA’s unique DOOM 1 music, however you additionally did virtually an entire Doom II soundtrack. I believe there was one observe which was on YouTube or two tracks. Whenever you had been doing these new songs, how did it really feel for you as a result of now you’ve come thus far forward as a musician and did you are feeling tempted to make it a contemporary Andrew Hulshult album versus attempting to be Doom II? How did you strategy that?
AH: Man. This entire IDKFA factor with id’s blessing has been an unimaginable expertise. It looks like I’m closing a chapter of my profession with the followers as a result of IDKFA is what received me so many roles and a lot recognition beforehand. Nicely, IDKFA and Rise of the Triad, however IDKFA was an enormous one and I nonetheless get folks which are like devs that attain out which are like, “I do know you from the DOOM stuff.” And I’m like, “What? DOOM Everlasting?” They’re like, “No, IDKFA. I performed that DOOM WAD.” And I’m like, “Oh my god.” So I nonetheless get jobs due to that. So at any time when I sat down… Every time Marty Stratton despatched me an electronic mail a few yr and a half in the past to ask if I had time to take a seat down at QuakeCon final yr and speak about some issues, I used to be like, “Uh oh. One thing’s both gone terribly flawed or he simply desires to hang around.”
So we sat down and he was like, “Hey.” He’s like, “I’ve an thought.” And I used to be like, “What’s that?” He’s like, “What if we provide you with a license for the DOOM soundtrack for IDKFA so to put that out on all the streaming platforms your self and do no matter you need and also you give us a license to do with what we’re engaged on, which was the DOOM and DOOM II remasters.” And I used to be like, “That sounds cool.” I used to be like, “I’d like to lastly get that out on official websites and all the things.” And he was like, “Oh, it’s superior.” He’s like, “I hoped you’d say that as a result of this is able to simply be so cool to have this as a selectable factor. Wish to go from the Bobby Prince to this if folks needed to.” And I used to be like, “Yeah.” And I’ve been doing that with soundtracks lately in any case.
About midway by that entire factor, we had been simply buying and selling conflict tales in regards to the business and simply getting alongside. And I used to be having a blast. I used to be considering, “Man, that is actually going to be closing a chapter in my profession.” I used to be getting just a little emotional. I used to be like, “I’ll inform you what.” I used to be like, “I’ll do you one higher.” I used to be like, “Why don’t we end DOOM II and make it the actual deal?” Individuals have requested for it without end. I’m like, “That might actually poke my viewers.” They’d be like, “Holy shit! Doom 2 is lastly completed!” And he was like, “Should you’re up for it, yeah, completely.” He’s like, “We’ll get you a license for something that you just do on that as properly so to put that out as properly.”
So, yeah. It was…strolling into doing DOOM II was a lot enjoyable. Each step of the way in which. Adam Pyle, the man that labored with me on Quake Champions, was the man that I bounced all my mixes off of. He instructed me at first, he mentioned, “Hey, you realize, do no matter you need.” He’s like, “It’s you. It’s the explanation folks need to take heed to it, so I don’t actually have a lot of a say.” I used to be like, “Bullshit!” I used to be like, “You labored with me on Quake Champions. I’m going to bounce each combine that I do off of you, and I need to hear suggestions from you.” It’s like, “I respect your opinion as a result of we received stuff like we did on Quake Champions as a result of we talked backwards and forwards.” So we did. I’d ship him… I’d end Operating from Evil and ship it to him, and he’d go, “This sounds nice, or, you realize, like, what when you did this?” It was solely a pair instances the place he was like, “What when you did this?” I used to be like, “Oh!” They had been all the time cool concepts. However I actually respect Adam’s skill to throw out issues every so often. He’s only a nice individual to bounce mixes off of. So, simply doing these one after one other and attending to the tip of it.
As soon as it was all wrapped up, I’m not going to lie, as soon as it was all collectively, I used to be simply in my workplace and I used to be like, “Oh my god!” Having a second the place I had a grown man cry the place I used to be like, “I can’t imagine that that is occurring. I can’t imagine that, primary, I’m going to be a part of the unique DOOM in an official capability. Quantity two, they’re going to ask me to speak at QuakeCon, like, reside on stage and announce all the things. And quantity three, they gave me a license for all these things in order that I can put it out and I can truly make some cash off of it. That doesn’t occur with an enormous studio. They don’t simply go, “Right here’s the soundtrack. Have enjoyable.”
I don’t know. It’s simply nonetheless so loopy. It hasn’t actually sunk in for me nonetheless. I’m nonetheless in that bizarre spot the place I’m like, “Yeah, that is on the market. We’re selling it.” And as soon as that’s over, I’m positive I’ll be like, “Oh my god.” , like, “Holy cow.” Nevertheless it’s been enjoyable.
The DOOM II stuff, I needed it to be one thing just a little bit extra recent on the place I’m at as an artist. I didn’t need it to be precisely like IDKFA, like the unique DOOM I stuff. As a result of if I had been to do this, I’d have to return and fully remix all of DOOM I stuff, which I used to be like, “No, that must be preserved. Individuals know what that’s.” So you may’t contact that. That’s already achieved. So I assumed, “Okay, properly what if I simply gave them how I’d do DOOM II proper now?” Which is strictly what it’s. All that stuff is like, “Yeah, f*** yeah.” These are the precise selections that I’d make with synths, with guitars, with drums. I believe all the things slams. I believe it sounds nice. So it’s only a image from 2011, 2012 with the unique IDKFA. It received formally launched in 2016, nevertheless it began engaged on it way back to again. So it’s an image of the place I used to be as a musician, that far again. After which this one is an image of 2024. So that you get it’s form of like a time capsule.
TA: Was The Healer Stalks one of many new songs as a result of it positively looks like trendy Andrew Hulshult?
AH: Yeah, that was the second written. I believe I virtually went in chronological order doing that complete soundtrack.
TA: You and I’ve each been enjoying DOOM for the reason that 90s. After I began studying guitar and enjoying so much, I began serious about the DOOM soundtrack and a number of the songs positively have bits that remind me of different band music like Pantera. Whenever you did IDKFA and simply heard the music basically, what did you consider that and the way does it really feel revisiting a few of these songs now? Stuff like A New Stage and This Love from Pantera immediately spring to thoughts.
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AH: Yeah. A few of that stuff’s fairly shut. Like typically, proper? Nevertheless it’s totally different sufficient the place you’re like, oh, okay. Yeah. However yeah, there’s positively some inspirations that had been taken from like thrash metallic for positive. As a result of I imply, like they all the time talked about Romero having on like Slayer and Metallica and all that stuff like enjoying whereas they had been making the sport. So it solely is smart that they’re like, you realize, hey, make one thing related round this. I don’t know precisely how that story went. I wasn’t there. I used to be like, you realize, I used to be like 4. However that makes full sense in my head. And yeah, going again and listening to them like, yeah, it’s there someplace within the ballpark of it for positive. Like
TA: So after DOOM II, have you ever gotten folks saying, when are we getting an IDKFA model of Quake and stuff? Since you did one tune, proper?
AH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did the theme. I believe I did that only for enjoyable. And I believe I truthfully did that as folks had been, I noticed a bunch of discussion board posts. It was both discussion board posts or Discord about folks unsure like about me on DUSK of all issues. Prefer it wasn’t even like a completely introduced sport, however they had been like, “I’m unsure Andrew”. And I used to be like, OK, you realize what? I used to be like, f*** you. I’ll simply remake the Quake theme. And you then’ll see if I’m the proper individual for the f***ing job. laughs And so I put that out and other people had been like, oh, and I keep in mind like a bunch of the feedback had been like, oh yeah, okay, he can work on DUSK.
TA: Do you take heed to that soundtrack typically? The unique Quake?
AH: Oh, man. I don’t take heed to it. Take heed to it. However like each time I’m going fireplace up Quake, which is about like as soon as twice a yr. A bit greater than that if I’m enjoying multiplayer with buddies. That’s the factor I stay up for probably the most apart from like the extent design is the soundtrack simply because it’s so on the market. Reznor did such a superb job on that. It’s unimaginable. God, I want it’s a pipe dream, however I’d like to work with him on one thing and Atticus Ross on one thing in some unspecified time in the future. That might be loopy. However they’re like means up there, you realize.
TA: Their film soundtracks are superb. I’ve truly been watching a number of the motion pictures simply because they’ve achieved the music as a result of I believe the audio design in The Social Community is unimaginable. I believe they did just like the latest Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles factor, which I nonetheless want to look at.
AH: It’s so cool when artists step out of their consolation zone like that, the place it’s such as you’re identified for such as you’re indignant and miserable music after which it’s like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s like now I’m . Yeah.
TA: Going again to your music, we coated Blood Swamps being the most well-liked tune which individuals carry up once they meet you and stuff. I noticed this interview with Ultimate Fantasy 14’s composer Masayoshi Soken who was requested a few tune which he actually favored, however nobody truly brings up, and that he thinks deserves extra consideration. He mentioned Sport Concept. I need to know what’s that for Andrew Hulshult.
AH: Splitting Time. Like everytime you introduced that up, I used to be like, oh yeah, from the AMID EVIL DLC. I imply prefer it’s properly it’s DLC. So like by nature, DLC doesn’t get as a lot consideration, you realize. However just like the AMID EVIL DLC altogether earlier than I discuss in regards to the music, the DLC is unimaginable. Like that’s my that’s one among my favourite issues I’ve labored on like in latest reminiscence. Like all of the music’s nice. Prefer it was , it was a pleasure to place all of it collectively. All of the sound design, all of the traps and all the things. It’s simply an unimaginable DLC. Should you don’t have it, it’s best to go get it. That’s not me shilling and simply oh go purchase the sport. Prefer it’s f***ing superior. They did an unimaginable job.
TA: Everybody should purchase that sport and DLC.
AH: Nicely, I don’t need to appear to be a shill. Should you prefer it, you prefer it. Like when you don’t, when you don’t dig it, don’t purchase it. we’re not not right here to love, you realize attempt to promote a bunch of stuff.
However like splitting time ending up that piece of music. It felt like an actual second the place I don’t know. I felt like form of a shift as an artist the place I used to be. I used to be far more comfy with a whole lot of the extra aggressive sound design parts being blended in with compositions and discovering methods to make them gel higher. And all the things actually got here collectively on that observe and out at any time when midway by I used to be like, that is the ultimate boss observe. I used to be like I don’t care what you’re designing. I’m like, that is the ultimate boss observe. And you realize, two seconds after they began listening to it, they’re like, oh yeah, that is the ultimate boss observe. We hadn’t even made the character but. I used to be identical to, right here it’s. That one hung round for a very long time. And yeah, that’s I really feel like that tune may be very a lot a superb indicator of the place I’m musically proper now.
TA: Now let’s get a bit into the weeds. Let’s speak about your present guitar setup, your pedals, your amps, string gauge, pickups, I need to know no matter you’re utilizing.
AH: So the guitar I’m utilizing probably the most is a Caparison Dellinger 7. I truly simply had a pickup swap on it the place I put some Seymour Duncans. I believe I put an SH5 within the bridge and an SH2 within the neck on this one. Particularly as a result of the SH5 on it has a extremely attention-grabbing factor the place it doesn’t emphasize the low mids an entire bunch however they nonetheless minimize by rather well. So everytime you’re sitting there and like, you realize, like chugging on stuff and you need to observe that 4 instances, it simply sits so much higher within the combine than when you had been to only use like inventory pickups. There’s nothing flawed with Caparison inventory pickups. They’re nice. They’re tremendous, tremendous punchy. However for my mixing model I simply, I do know what I need by way of pickups so I simply, I swap these out.
I additionally did the identical factor truly final week with the 8 string. This can be a Caparison Brocken 8 string. I don’t suppose they make this anymore. I swapped out the pickups on this one as properly to a gosh, what’s it? It’s Duncan. They’re actually, actually well-known 8 string pickups by Duncan. And I can’t keep in mind what they’re known as now.
TA: I didn’t know Seymour Duncan even had 8 string pickups.
AH: They do 8 and like, I used to be initially going to get some Fishman Fluences for it as a result of they appear like they’d maintain the highest finish within the midrange just a little bit higher however after I don’t know, I’ve simply all the time been a Seymour Duncan man. And after discovering a pair that I actually favored at a store known as Tone Store up the road from me. I used to be like, man, I actually need to put these in my 8 string they usually have a tech there that’s simply unimaginable at what he does with all my guitars. So I used to be identical to, hey, order these and I’ll simply go away the guitar with you and like per week later they got here again and I used to be like, yeah, that’s precisely what I needed, sounds unimaginable.
I’ve received my Caparison 7 and eight, and I nonetheless have all of the guitars that I’ve had over time for probably the most half. I’ve received one other Schecter 8 string right here that may be a actually cool shade. It’s tremendous neat, like, it truly adjustments from blue to purple.
TA: I believe it’s known as Prism or one thing like that. John Petrucci has one thing like that on one among his guitars.
AH: However yeah, this one has just like the EMGs in it and it’s a cool guitar. It nonetheless performs nice. Like, I nonetheless prefer it. However let me present you one thing that’s truly fairly candy. So I nonetheless have, I purchased this in like 2004. And I nonetheless have it. That is the guitar that I truly wrote all of IDKFA or most of it on and I wrote all of, I tracked all of Rides of the Triad with. It’s only a Schecter C6. It’s like simply inventory. It even nonetheless has the plastic within the again which is loopy. However yeah, that is like, I nonetheless have this guitar. I used to be like I used to be so near going as much as id, like which is simply on the road for me and being like after IDKFA was completed, I virtually was identical to, right here, you guys, you want this. , like, maintain on to this or one thing. Like that is the one. However like, I don’t know. It’s not like a mainline DOOM sport, you realize? Like, it must be one thing like a mainline sport the place I’d be like, I wrote this on this guitar right here. , if you’d like this, it feels prefer it belongs to you. And in addition, a part of me is like, no, don’t try this. Like, hold on to it.
TA: Okay now string gauges.
AH: For string gauges, 10 to 59 on 7 strings. And on 8 strings, I believe it’s 10 to 65. After which usually on 6 strings, I identical to 10 to 46.
TA: Do you employ D’Addario strings? I take advantage of them largely.
AH: I take advantage of D’Addario for probably the most half, however I bounce backwards and forwards typically to Ernie Ball.
TA: What about your amp setup and your pedals and stuff like that?
AH: So amps, I’ve offered virtually each amp I’ve ever owned. I had a JC-120. I had a few these Crate Blue Voodoos means again within the day. Those that had been like, yeah, those that had been, had been principally copies of these Ampeg tube amps that they made a very long time in the past. I had a Valve State 8100. I had a bunch of amps and a bunch of VHT cupboards as properly too. And I offered all of them years in the past. I’ve actually simply been like working contained in the field for probably the most half with like neural DSP plugins into an RME interface and I additionally went so far as getting one among these lately, which is a Neural DSP Quad Cortex. So principally that is all of their plugins constructed into like a very nice processor. However for a challenge I’m engaged on lately they had been like, hey you want an amp. And I used to be like, yeah, you’re in all probability proper. I do want an amp. So I went and acquired this and I plug it into two 100 watt Seymour Duncan energy levels. Okay.
They’re like, they’re these little tiny like 100 watt energy amplifiers. They’re strong state energy amplifiers. And I run the stereo out from that factor into the left and proper facet of these and people go into two Engel 2×12 cupboards. Which, okay, Engel 2×12 cupboards are superior. Ever since I heard a Rammstein file that used them I all the time needed to seize one as a result of I used to be like, god, these issues sound enormous.
TA: I wasn’t positive about this as a result of a pal of mine mentioned he was positive AMID EVIL was recorded on an Axe FX Extremely.
AH: Any guitar stuff I’ve achieved has used both Native Devices Guitar Rig from means again within the day. Like IDKFA used a ton of Native Devices Guitar Rig 5 and Guitar Rig 4. However just about all the things since DUSK has used Neural DSP for guitar work. It’s simply me plugging straight into my RME UFX and typically I’ll use pedals going into it just like the Unique BB Preamp however more often than not it’s only a dry DI sign getting manipulated contained in the field.
So, those that received probably the most use on DUSK had been the Moogerfooger low cross filter. Imagine it or not, like anytime you hear the sound of one thing turning into form of lo-fi or something. It was all the time run by this filter. It was fairly cool. However the factor I like about it probably the most is the drive circuit on it. Like I don’t even prefer it that a lot as like a filter filter. The drive part on it’s simply so aggressive that it’s a extremely attention-grabbing sound and like that sound that you just hear on the DUSK soundtrack which is like all the actually excessive excessive finish that’s like actually excessive power. It’s virtually just like the 9 Inch Nails stuff. A ton of that comes simply from driving the entrance finish of this factor. And identical means with the Fulltone Catalyst. However yeah, it’s just some of them. I believe there’s yet one more that I take advantage of so much. I don’t suppose I’ve it right here. It’s the ZVEX Fuzz Manufacturing facility which is simply an insane sounding pedal. It simply appears like rubbish. And that’s why I prefer it. It simply appears like you’re destroying a sign which is ideal. I’m cool. That sounds cool. That’s a terrific impact. I like that.
TA: You’ve achieved so much in your profession thus far with recognizable music. As a musician, how have you ever been studying to enhance your individual expertise like programming drums, software program, and the way do you steadiness doing that whilst you have a whole lot of people who need to work with you on new tasks?
AH: Every single day is rather like I don’t know. Should you’re not instructing your self one thing daily, that is my prepare of thought. If I’m not attempting to sound higher in my very own head, no matter I believe is healthier, I’m losing my time. So if I really feel just like the drum equipment I’ve used like two or 3 times on two to a few totally different data, if I’m like that feels stale. If I then go if it feels stale and I do know the ends and outs of it and easy methods to make it sound good then I would like to alter that drum equipment. I would like to search out one thing totally different and work with it and see if I can get some totally different sounds out of it. So I’ll change devices and simply purposefully put myself in positions the place I don’t know the place I’m at or what sounds good with it simply in order that I can discover my means out of it.
It’s form of like limiting your self, like placing your self in a field that’s actually vital as an artist to just remember to are working inside a sure scope of issues and going hey, you realize, right here’s one thing that’s fully unfamiliar, get used to it and that is what you need to work with. So, yeah, like I don’t know, simply always difficult myself is a part of who I’m for probably the most half. So, it’s simply the way it all the time goes.
TA: I’m glad you introduced that particular bit up as a result of in one other interview of yours you talked about how as soon as you bought to your thirties crucial factor grew to become getting good sleep which lots of people take as a right of their twenties. So my query is that attempting to have a routine is essential even when you can’t keep on with it 100%. What does a day in your life appear to be proper now?
AH: A day proper now seems like about, a typical day is about wherever between 6 to 7 hours of sleep which is about what I would like I’ve came upon, prefer it’s like someplace round there, typically 8 after which randomly I’ll have days the place it’s like, oh you want like 11 hours I don’t know why, however I really feel high quality waking up fully recharged with like 6 and a half to 7 and a half hours of sleep. So what I’ll do each morning is I’ll get up, I’ll go take a bathe instantly, like that’s the one means I can begin my day is like I really feel like I’ve received to it looks like I’m washing off yesterday I don’t understand how else to clarify that after which I gotta have a espresso after which I gotta begin writing issues on a whiteboard that’s proper over beside me to the left as a result of in any other case I’m simply gonna spin my wheels all day lengthy and suppose, oh I ought to do that, I ought to try this, I’ll be serious about all the things I must do after which by no means truly do something. I don’t know if that’s ADD, ADHD or no matter that’s undiagnosed, I’m positive it’s to some extent which I’ll get to that in some unspecified time in the future however till then I’ve the whiteboard and so long as I write stuff down on it on what I need to try this day, I’ll knock all of it out, each single piece of it. However what’s tremendous vital for me to do is simply plan out the day early on after which all the things simply involves it afterwards.
The opposite factor that’s form of new for me too is round like 4 o’clock usually I’ll now attempt to do, this has been throughout the final 3.5 months, I’ll attempt to do about 20 to half-hour of cardio. Simply because I really feel like for some purpose elevating my coronary heart charge actually takes me from hey I may focus earlier than to now I’m tremendous laser centered and may get by no matter I must and it additionally places me in a a lot better temper if I’m having a shit day.
TA: You’ve beforehand talked about that you just love enjoying Cities Skylines. Did you play Cities Skylines 2?
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AH: Yeah, however you realize like I haven’t gone again to it but. I must attempt it once more in some unspecified time in the future. However oh boy prefer it wanted some extra time within the oven at any time when I attempted it. Like no offense to them. I used to be identical to wow.
TA: I imply you in all probability tried it on like your correct gaming PC. I identical to to play Steam video games on a Steam Deck and I may get it at 5 fps or one thing after a little bit of enjoying.
AH: Even with the 3080 I believe I used to be at factors I used to be sitting there at like 35 frames a second. I’m like actually? With the 3080? That is the place we’re at huh? Okay.
TA: Do you continue to play Hunt: Showdown and did you attempt the brand new Hunt: Showdown 1896 replace?
AH: Yeah. That they had some actually attention-grabbing selections with their UI that they only pushed with this one which lots of people aren’t in favor of. I’m getting just a little extra used to it as time goes on. However man there are some issues they should hammer out with it. However yeah I nonetheless play that like a pair instances per week with my buddies in New Blood. Like with Dylan who’s engaged on Gloomwood. I’ll play it with David every so often. I’ll play it with Mason who’s the developer on Religion. Like we’re all, identical to all of us simply hang around. We’re all simply buddies. So Leon, me and Leon play it I believe probably the most. Leon’s the lead on AMID EVIL. However yeah like New Zealand and America enjoying an internet fps sport is a wild factor however now we have a good time doing it.
TA: Earlier than we wrap up, I need to know your favourite bands and artists proper now out and in of video video games.
AH: I’m fairly boring on this one to be trustworthy with you. I must department out just a little extra. Favourite bands outdoors of video video games proper now like for positive they usually’ve sat there for some time is Gojira. I actually like their mixing. I like how tight they’re reside. I like their selections on composition. I don’t really feel like they write a nasty tune. I may throw out the plain ones. Metallica is one other one simply because James Hetfield’s proper hand is like what impressed me to play guitar. Like how briskly you are able to do these issues is loopy.
Exterior of or in video video games I’d nonetheless say I nonetheless suppose and it’s going to be a bizarre alternative since you’re like properly you write all this aggressive music. What’s Jesper Kyd? That man is rather like nice on all the things he touches and all the things he touches is all the time distinctive. However I all the time return to his early stuff just like the Hitman franchise as a result of it’s simply so unusual and prefer it actually fits these early video games rather well. Should you take heed to it outdoors of it, it looks like a extremely bizarre chilly form of soundtrack. Even from the very first sport which has a whole lot of attention-grabbing issues like virtually drum and bass selections. It nonetheless looks like a chilly entrance.
, like a Hitman. And I all the time simply discover that stuff fascinating. How he was capable of take so many alternative genres of music between all these video games and nonetheless make them match accurately for that character. So yeah and I believe he labored on the Darktide stuff extra lately which I would like to provide a take heed to. All people’s instructed me that’s unimaginable however I don’t know I used to be knee deep in like 4 lively developments at any time when that sport got here out. So I simply haven’t given it an opportunity.
TA: Hypothetical scenario, when you had no time or funds constraints, when you may compose for any single sport and any single film which might you decide?
AH: So let’s see for any sport if it had the proper path I’d actually prefer to take a shot at like a Duke sport. As a result of I really feel like that’s an IP that may very well be introduced again if it’s introduced again in the proper means. And you need to suppose that’s actually going to be dictated by whoever the artistic manufacturing is on the time. So if it was achieved in the proper means I’d like to step into that.
Both that or I’m going to throw one other one out to you. I’d like to work on Minecraft. Similar to relax you realize. Like simply make one thing that’s fully chill. So these are fully two reverse sides of the spectrum.
However so far as a film, man, that’s a terrific query. Let me give it some thought for only a second. Man on Hearth. Like I really like Denzel Washington’s work as primary: as an motion hero I believe he’s nice. However quantity two at any time when he is ready to have sufficient time to place drama into issues. And like both I don’t understand how else to clarify it aside from he does a f***ing loopy incredible job.
Both Man on Hearth or American Gangster. A kind of two soundtracks I believe I may do can be nice to work on. As a result of there’s so many alternative feelings between each of these movies. It’s an enormous curler coaster that doesn’t go up and down as soon as. It goes up and down and does like a loop. And like you realize, it takes you facet to facet. Like each of these movies do that basically properly.01:48:40.760 –> 01:48:42.760
TA: You’ve a whole lot of bands you’ve been listening to for a very long time like Metallica. What are your ideas on their latest or new albums?
AH: I can discover issues I like on just like the data that they put out as a result of like I’m a die onerous. Even with this final Megadeth file. I may nonetheless discover stuff that I like I can chew on. No drawback. Completely. However you realize these guys aren’t going to put in writing like one other Grasp of Puppets. That comes round as soon as in a lifetime. what I imply? They usually struck it 4 instances. Like with Kill ‘Em All, Trip the Lightning, Grasp of Puppets and …And Justice for All. So prefer to even simply get that’s loopy. However I do discover issues that I like on all their newer stuff. Like I believe What was the 2016 file that that they had? Hardwired to Self Destruct. Yeah I believe that that really had some actual moments of actually actually good writing on it.
Particularly the final observe. I felt like Hardwired was a terrific observe. However I additionally thought Moth into the Flame was written tremendous properly. There’s a handful of simply actually actually actually good writing on that file. On 72 Seasons, there’s nonetheless a handful that I actually like. However they don’t sync as a lot for me. And I’m unsure if it’s as a result of I’m in search of one thing sooner or not. Which that’s simply not the place they’re at in the intervening time. That’s not what they’re writing. And that’s okay. I’ll say the final observe on that file I really feel like is ideal. It’s so good. I can’t keep in mind what it’s known as off the highest of my head in the intervening time. I’m horrible with tune names typically. It’s loopy. It’s like 11 minutes and it looks like a 5 minute and 30 second tune. I keep in mind listening to it the primary time. I used to be like gosh. There’s a lot emotion thrown into this tune that it’s only a pleasure to take heed to. I find it irresistible once I can inform that somebody actually dumped all their feelings onto one thing. That’s when it actually strikes a chord for me.
However yeah even the final stuff from Slayer, there’s issues that I can discover that I take pleasure in. however I do know I’m not going to get the revolutionary file that we had rising up. That’s okay. I’m simply glad they’re nonetheless making music. And it’s nonetheless fairly sick.
TA: What’s probably the most random piece of music memorabilia that you just’ve held onto for a very long time?
AH: I had a pal that I labored with a very long time in the past who fell on onerous instances at one level and he was buddies and and like labored with Pantera for a very long time. And he was like man he’s like I’m attempting to do away with these things I’m like why don’t you simply maintain on to it and like like right here’s right here’s you realize right here’s some money when you want some money to get by. He’s like no no no he’s such as you maintain on to it simply pay me for it. I used to be like okay so I’ve received this vinyl of the Nice Southern Trendkill that’s one of many unique vinyl releases, however I even have a plaque that got here prefer it was given to one among their both their sound or their lighting crew at one level and it’s like for the tour in Japan for the Nice Southern Trendkill that very same time. And I used to be like the place did you get this you realize like what the hell. And he’s like yeah we simply you realize had him and I knew the man and he had like 5 or 6 of them that they gave him by chance so he gave me one. I used to be like oh okay all proper. So I’ve each of these issues in my closet they’ve frolicked with me for like gosh I need to say 15 16 17 years now however these outdated ones won’t ever go away.
Some folks preserve costly booze in a decanter. Teah and I preserve hand-crafted chilly brew espresso. pic.twitter.com/7DJlgWcjaB
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) October 10, 2020
TA: Okay for my final query, how do you want your espresso? I normally ask this on the finish, however I keep in mind an outdated Tweet of yours (linked above) made me much more interested by your reply.
AH: Yeah man I just like the chilly brew stuff. I beloved sizzling espresso without end however like chilly brew I don’t know the longer I’m going the simpler it’s to only sit on a desk and sip on. I don’t must be like that’s sizzling. I can simply be like no we’re simply getting all the caffeine if I need to. So chilly brew espresso. Chilly brew black.
I’d prefer to thank Andrew Hulshult for his time and assist with this interview over the previous couple of weeks.
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