By now most individuals know the key behind Scott Pilgrim Takes Off: Scott Pilgrim — effectively, he takes off. He’s gone, for a lot of the narrative, leaving the gamers as we all know them to select up the items and work out what occurred to him. What occurs to them in his absence is often a complete flip of what we’ve come to count on: Suppose Gideon introducing Lucas to the slowburn anime he’s been waiting for some time (or perhaps just some days).
Bryan Lee O’Malley, who wrote the unique comedian and co-created the Netflix anime reboot with BenDavid Grabinski, is aware of that form of remake is one thing audiences have come to count on. “I imply, it’s within the air, proper? We’re all seeing remakes and reboots of the whole lot,” O’Malley says.
When Scott Pilgrim Takes Off was in improvement he says he and the workforce checked out the whole lot new on this vein they may, from The Matrix Resurrections to Spider-Man: No Means Dwelling. However simply as regularly he turned elsewhere for inspiration — Dragonball Z, Cowboy Bebop, Hold Your Arms off Eizouken!, and even Elden Ring. However none of those had been fairly the principle catalyst, even one thing like Evangelion, which he calls “a great comparability, however not essentially an affect.”
The true purpose O’Malley needed to make this story was merely: It was the one means he may see revisiting the world of Scott Pilgrim.
[Ed. note: This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.]
Polygon: Beginning off: I’m curious to listen to a little bit bit about how you probably did justice by Matthew Patel, the bottom rating evil ex.
Bryan Lee O’Malley: Our first spark of thought was to sort of take Scott Pilgrim out of the image after the primary episode. And that naturally led to the method of: Then what occurs to Matthew? What does Matthew get? After which what do the opposite exes give it some thought? So yeah, it actually appealed to me instantly, and to be like, Oh, then Matthew ought to win, and Matthew ought to turn into the boss. As a result of we’re going by all these totally different reversals of fortune; so somebody goes from the highest to the underside, and somebody has to go from the underside to the highest. And yeah, giving Matthew sort of his flowers was a lot enjoyable.
Had been there any characters particularly — like Matthew, or simply typically — that you simply felt most excited by like, OK, if we open up this world with out Scott in it, what are you able to do?
I used to be excited to tackle sort of all of the exes; that was one of many largest appeals to me of revisiting Scott Pilgrim, was simply — I felt like I gave them brief shrift within the books a little bit bit. I used to be making it up as I went alongside, and I used to be locked into Scott’s perspective. And I used to be youthful and didn’t actually know that a lot about different individuals like that! I definitely didn’t learn about film stars, or rock stars, I didn’t actually know the small print of how they lived; I simply noticed them in magazines, or no matter or in motion pictures.
So now I’ve lived a little bit extra, I’ve been in LA for a very long time, and met a lot of various kinds of individuals. And I feel that simply feeds again into sort of giving these characters a little bit extra pathos, a little bit extra depth and nuance — and pathos additionally within the sense of, like: pathetic; they’re additionally losers. And that was at all times actually enjoyable for me.
One of many issues BenDavid advised me was you had been approached to adapt this, and also you had been wrestling with, Nicely, I’ve modified since I did this story, what does that imply? And I’m curious what kind of stuff you had been actually enthusiastic about as you’re getting approached for this collection that so many individuals love and so many individuals cherish and it hits totally different for you now.
Nicely, I imply that’s the preliminary concern. Netflix, and our producers, Jared [LeBoff] and Edgar Wright had approached me, we had talked about it a little bit bit — doing a collection — they usually had been sort of eager on on doing it far more just like the books initially. And for me that simply made me sort of recoil. Like I don’t wish to revisit myself at 25, essentially. And it’s all there! It’s all on the web page. So why would I wish to relive that? Why would I wish to good one thing that was so messy; it simply looks as if an unimaginable activity.
As a result of the messiness is such part of it. It’s a part of the enjoyment of it, is it’s messy, it’s difficult. It’s irreducible. So when confronted with writing X variety of TV episodes, I simply thought, how the fuck am I gonna do this? I simply had no thought, so it was actually not till that dinner with BenDavid that that we simply sort of began spitballing — not professionally; simply sort of joking round [wondering], What can we do with these characters? After which a variety of these jokes we had been like, Oh, really, that may work. So you realize, the joke of “Scott dies on the finish,” or “Matthew turns into the boss” — these all simply turned one thing that we are able to actually work with.
At what level did it turn into clear to you that if we’re revisiting this, and we’re taking Scott out of it, and we’re giving all people house to be a little bit bit extra themselves, a little bit bit extra nuanced — at what level did it sort of turn into: Oh, Scott is likely to be the unhealthy man?
Nicely, I imply, that’s positively a part of the preliminary dialogue. That’s a notion. I don’t actually see Scott because the unhealthy man. However today — this can be a horrible factor to say in an interview — the notion positively on Twitter and stuff sort of turned during the last perhaps 5 years the place now it’s like, “He’s a nasty character!” “It’s a poisonous relationship!” and all this type of chatter.
And I feel all that stuff is true. However I don’t suppose that folks within the 2000s didn’t suppose it was true. Like, I feel the youthful technology is, like, We found that Scott is unhealthy. However, you realize, it says on the very first web page he’s relationship a excessive schooler; nobody’s alleged to suppose that’s a great factor. I feel within the 2000s, I took it without any consideration that folks could be like, Oh, he’s horrible, however it’s humorous. So now you sort of should be a bit extra specific — it’s simply the best way our tradition works, the best way on-line works. Like, in case you don’t outright condemn one thing, then the absence of condemnation is seen as a tacit approval.
So yeah, it was by no means a tacit approval. It was a tacit condemnation. However positively within the present within the trendy period, yeah, now we have a scene the place [we show] Scott, it’s not a great factor thus far a excessive schooler. So — throw them a bone?
I’m curious the way you interpolated but in addition synthesized a variety of these conversations which might be occurring round this property into this, because it looks like this present is so in dialog with these.
I’ve absorbed all these issues through the years; I didn’t disappear after Scott Pilgrim completed. So in a variety of methods, I sort of need it to really feel like Scott Pilgrim is again from the lifeless. You thought it was gone, however it’s again. However not solely is it again, prefer it by no means left, it’s additionally been taking note of you. It’s grown up alongside you.
And we needed to sort of cater to so many various audiences: somebody such as you, who learn it a very long time in the past, and sort of has a reminiscence of it, of what it felt like. But additionally somebody who simply learn it final week for the primary time, or somebody who simply found the film, or any person who hasn’t seen any of it. So it was simply this actually advanced, however invigorating problem of: how can we make this really feel recent, and likewise layered — and likewise hopefully staggering to some individuals who have thought concerning the guide, however perhaps to not this diploma?
Did you end up being shocked by your response to revisiting this and reframing it in any means? Had been there any characters who you felt ring a little bit in a different way or sit a little bit in a different way with you?
I don’t suppose I’ve a robust reminiscence of the way it hit again then. However it was actually only a enjoyable course of, writing them and, and discovering this stuff and difficult ourselves to search out new methods into the whole lot.
I bought to jot down the good scene the place Knives and Kim sit down and play music collectively. And it’s not one thing I may’ve carried out within the comedian, a) as a result of it’s music. After which simply the logistical problem of constructing that occur, and making it really feel natural and actual, was very satisfying. After which that remaining scene, like simply made performs magically for me. It was cool to find these issues by advantage of the collaboration with all these totally different artists and stuff. And that was that was the massive new factor. It’s simply letting different individuals in and letting their all of them have their very own totally different varieties of affection for the collection. And that exhibits, I feel.
Scott Pilgrim Takes Off is now streaming on Netflix.